Ten years later the Anthonys are still fighting to keep their home, Scott Petersons disliked or felt superior to Lacis, https://www.websleuths.com/forums/search/2228646/, Christopher Watts: What else do we know? What memories [and resentments] might this have triggered in Chris Watts two months before the murders? Chris Watts on his wedding is his true self: a pudgy, pussy-whipped basic white male. My question to Cindy Watts is who the hell would and could get along with you? John List is the best known example of this, but there are many others. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. That day had to be hugely significant in her life because the father of her own child wasnt around, and because her own father then and there wasnt exactly father of the year, in fact for the previous months hed been threatening to divorce Cindy Anthony and that meant they all might lose the house. The Mother-in-law never saw the post about the nuts that she did on Facebook. Part 5 is here: https://youtu.be/sjHc-ijQjXUWhy is it that Chris Watts's parents (Cindy Watts and Ronnie Watts) and and his sister (Jamie Lyn Williams) treat. Just Like you. I want to know why Shanann didnt think something would go horribly wrong visiting her in-laws without Chris being there. Ditto, Nan. If he were to get away with murder, he can still pretend to be Mr Perfect. and our Id fightbut then you ask yourself, Would a normal person putdispose of the bodies the way that he did? It scares me to death [speaking softly, nodding] that he could have done all of this. This is because Chris Watts is a psychopath, a monster and a narcissist nothing more. Chris Watts: Voted most likely to succeed in the Class of 2003 I want you, then, if this is your decision, then you get in there and make something [inaudible]. Cindy and Jamie teamed up to place nuts on the table. Im not attempting to conflate the two choices, just the fact of the toll it took on them. Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who mana. God bless those poor victims. In 2019, Chris neighbor spoke out about what he saw the night Chris allegedly murdered his family. The wedding invitations the sister was in charge of but delibertely didnt mail out. For those who believe Shanann killed her kids, would it have been for one or more of the same reasons I listed for Chris? Send it to us! Perhaps you could learn more before commenting with over the top emotion. Throughout all my reading of the case Ive never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SWs fb). Email In Touch at contact@intouchweekly.com. CW looks miserable on his wedding day whilst she looks elated she has her whole family there after all. Shanann was the dominant force, definitely not Cindy. On the one hand he had his wife complaining, and on the other, a lover selling him dreams. Thats just not factual at all. Im familiar with Chris parental dynamic, where the father is the pussy, enabling his wifes narcissism. Jamies husband has worked hard getting his job. He wanted his own wild child to have another run around the paddock. What if he married Shanann because, in some strange way, she reminded him of his mom? Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. As Shanann asked her too. i havent seen anyone bring her up or the fact that she even works at a hospital, or even as suspect for nicos murder but she def is in my book. The dumb bitch. Dear God so many people have been affected by this horrific disaster. Wow.boga.you must strictly be on shananns side. Shananns the root of evil? Bitch excuse me?? Sign up for breaking news email alerts from Your Content. I see a lot of people saying there are two camps in response to this and there really arent. Do not say one god damn bad word about Shanann. I like your take on this. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children., I believe that is where he got the idea of blaming Shannan.. Did you watch Chris Watts sentencing hearing? And was it just me or was it in poor taste (to say the least), Jamie talking to Chris about her kids and what they've been doing, pretending as if he HADN'T JUST MURDERED HIS OWN CHILDREN, JAMIE'S OWN NIECES?! Sure gets ones mind in thinking mode! All Rights Reserved. That has got to hurt, though, if Chris Watts and Shan'ann's big day was all about Shan'ann, and Chris' family weren't even there. Shannan seems like the type of person who would be really difficult to live with and difficult to satisfy. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. JAMIE left numerous times after high school and would always move back home. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children. Your stories not over. Am I the only one that finds it strange that Jamie is a respiratory therapist? From CWs perspective, when SWs *parents* came and stayed in their home *for over a year*, that was more evidence that SWs parents/side of the family would be a major part of their lives, while his own family, whom he was very close to, would not. bothered him. He just saw JAMIE and her family during his recent visit to North Carolina. *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. If only Chris got a divorce. I had a mother in law like her. That likely would have changed everything. A MUM killed alongside her two kids has had her final moments revealed in her evil husband's sick prison letters. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as theyre published. She suffered enough. She should have wrote them ALL off from day one. Were all just people. During her sons trial, Cindy added, I have always loved you and I still do. #chriswatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Oct 30, 2018 at 12:28am PDT. Uh, the root of all evil is Chris Watts. Youve heard of divorce, right? CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie Lynn Williams AKA 'Trinket78' 4,581 views Jun 16, 2019 60 Dislike Share Save ParadiseMedia 4.72K subscribers CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie. Do you remember Neil Entwistle who tried to say his wife killed their child before herself? I dont want him to take this plea deal. Thats all I mean. I saw an interview with one of Chris Watts former mistresses, not Nichol but the one before her. WATTS [Licks lips]: Im so happy that theyre here. Thats ridiculous . It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. But Cindy seems to have been quite down to Earth, simple and practical, and Shanann none of those things. No way his mother would have said that crap. Does the "we" refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts' sister] as well? Although both families essentially lived in the same town, they apparently did not know each other or regularly cross paths, so this would have been a valuable opportunity to get to know each other better, since the families would now be linked together via the happy couple. I treat her like I do my daughter. Another added, I wish the sister would talk, maybe she can give some insight as to why her brother is a lunatic and as to why he wouldnt just divorce her, screw his tramp on the side and move on., Watts and his then-coworker, Nichol Kessinger, began having an affair in June 2018, two months before the slayings. Talking about his family, Chris's parents are his mother Cindy Watts, and his father Ronnie Watts. I am a family therapist and wondered exactly the same. She works with patients in home care. We love you and forgive you, son., As for Ronnie, he said that he forgave his son for his actions too. One of the primary activities at a wedding is to enable the two sides of the family to meet and get to know each other. And I think years of being just the nice guy to go along with everything and being bossed around and feeling so small like he didnt really have a say, Im sure had a profound impact on his mental health coupled with the fact that he allegedly wasnt excited to have another baby and didnt really love being a dad as much as he claimed. Cindy Watts probably pressured her not to partake. We are not here to ask for leniency and are not in any way condoning or tolerating the crime that has occurred or the pain that has been caused their attorney read. But couple all those angry feelings and then having to pay attention to 2 toddlers and work a taxing job, have a wife who is not really a good match for you who wants to separate you from your familyif he wasnt the type for this kind of lifestyle I could see how that would drive someone crazy. Chris had CeeCee on his shoulders and Shanaan was walking next to them. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver. A whole family of narcissists. Locked post. I do suspend any judgement on Shanann. the person who gave him the oxy had to be in his family since he said hed take whoever it was to the grave. Every time he sees a wedding photo, he remembers it wasnt quite the perfect day the photos suggested it was. And you will., It is [hard], killer Chris Watts replied. She went to North Carolina for six weeks at the very end of June. Shanann was still in Colorado in June. They had intended to go but felt they couldnt after this. She lost her marbles because a kid sat down with another kid and started eating some ice cream they got from the freezer. He is a prison success story and she risked that reputation. This was supposed to be a beautiful time in Shannans and Chris life. Not the other way around. If Watts started to develop first enmity, then a murderous resentment towards his wife [no one is saying he was justified, just that those feelings had to have been there], then if his own parents disliked Shanann [as Scott Petersons disliked or felt superior to Lacis] he may have felt he could get away with it. So Cindy Watts didnt attend her sons wedding. Maybe they are a bunch of people with personality disorders, but even people with personality disorders have their reasons to do bad stuff and even justify every bad stuff they do. For more information, please see our They still should have been the bigger people and just attended the wedding and put up & shut up. What if he killed his (beautiful) children because, in some strange way, he was killing that child in himself, the one he loathed and felt great shame for. , he was always a lunatic, he just mimicked others very well. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I believe that is where he got the idea of blaming Shannan. His full birth name is Christopher Lee Watts. Lets listen: CINDY: I dontseewhy hes pleading guilty. Ronnie blocked Shannan from Facebook. He gets along well with JAMIE and her husband. Perhaps he was trying to save his daughters from the madness he knew he had for a long time. Would you let a child rapist babysit your kid? For me, this revelation enmity between Shanann and Cindy Watts reminds me of two aspects in two other cases. Thats what they all do play victim. Shannan would have gone down with a fight if she were awake. As for being attracted to Nichol Kessinger I can see why she is Gorgeous and unfortunately too often people go by looks and forget about character. The sister Jamie said she couldnt get off work to attend the bridal party events prior to the wedding. "Happy . Let me end with saying that I dont know what happened that night, but I think that its a tragedy we can all expect to learn from. Shannan freaked out because Cindy had ice cream in the house. He was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 84 years in Nov. 2018 for his heinous crimes. It probably helped that her murder occurred shortly after a big blow up between Shannan and his parents. I, too, am interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, characters involved and MLM influence. Why not believe the physician that prescribed the epi pen? Cindy insisted her son is not a sociopath and justice had not been served. OH NO NO NO Shannan was way to good for this inbred family. God is watching. The footage shows the 33-year-old buying a . Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Anyone who left a child with the Watts family were completely ignorant of how truly dangerous it was. Theyre right of course, the murder of three members of ones nearest and dearest is an act of madness, but thats not the whole story. This!!!! He killed 2 children and one unborn, what more do we need to know why? He experienced freedom while they were gone, and when they got back, he was probably overtaken by resentment that they stood between him and the mistress. Nonetheless why risk it? That is a losing battle. Kathleen. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Asking her mom about shanann not loving Chris etc. If you nodded your head while saying no is also a lie. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. Cindy Watts did not put nuts in CeCes icecream. I just find it odd that shes been totally MIA in this investigation, one reddit user questioned. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Nick, they didnt attend the wedding because Shann,Ann fired Jamie and her children from the wedding a week earlier because Jamie couldnt get off work to attend the bridesmaids hair and nail events. Although she deleted her account shortly after posting these comments, I do believe this was likely Jaime Williams attempting to defend her brothers character and reputation. Considering dates are set in advance, there was probably more to it then Jamie not getting off work. So sad. That was not an excuse to kill her by any means but she was fairly toxic herself. Shanann tried to involve these in laws from hell. The scenario where Chris saw ShanAnn killing the girls wasnt Chris own idea originally. I feel so sad for her family, they dont deserve this, Shanann was NOTHING like his mother. Well that maybe true according to Cindy however please explain the 80 bridal invitations that never got mailed in the attempts to embarrass Shanann with no one showing up. Nick has a pic on this site with him in a baseball uniform. There is also what woman called the schoolhis sister or mother or his mistress? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Yes, Shanann had a problem that Chris mother deliberately chose to feed her little girl some that could KILL HER. And they can record all they want. Maybe thats putting it too strongly: that if he did what he did they wouldnt blame him. For my part, Im interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, and the characters involved. The Rzucek family are weird as well. Okay? This really upset Bella and she went crying to the v reliable and intelligent babysitter about it. If you look at her while she is saying that here head is moving side to side, that usually indicates that someone is lying. She left a bag of pistachio nuts down on a low shelf, within reach of a 3 year old. He's also said it over the phone to people. Go ahead and make up stuff. Tension and stress. Jamie Middleton Kerry Milligan Jodi Noble Julie Pierce Kimberlee Reimann Padilla* Ann Siner* Sue Singer Dr. Craig Thatcher* Cindy Treacy Cindy Watts Daryl Weil Dr. Kathy Wigal Patty Withycombe Susan Yannitelli *Arizona Humane Society Board of Directors. CW had tended to side with Shanann against his mother until not long before the horrendous murders. We won't post to any of your accounts without asking first. National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. I thought it was odd. I think its the most reasonable one on here. Sometimes one person needs to step up and start doing it instead of waiting for the *other person* to. No need to be angry at me for trying to understand the family dynamics. I definitely was watching Chris body language, and at that point in time, he definitely could have been freaking out because his wife was gone and his children were gone, but I just personally thought the way he was acting was a little strange, he said. Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate Am I the only one that finds it strange that Jamie is a respiratory therapist? I agree. You mentioned the Lacy Peterson case in passing, but the comparisons are far closer. Article continues below advertisement Records show Nowak made. Bullshit. I cant imagine anyone willfully doing something that could cause the death of a child that they love. Their rage is deep seated and ends in a final act of murder, which seem totally out of character to all who felt they knew them. At 1:27 in this video link, Cindy Watts says it so quickly its easy to miss it completely. His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_-nUnbIgTU. Its just the beginning of something else Chris, but your story doesnt end here. Play it back and the reporter has just mentioned the couple married in 2012. This is my decision. Would you let her walk around a tall building with no railing? When a person commits to being a bridesmaid, that includes showing up. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. No damn way. He killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress not because he disliked his wife. I knew there had to be a wife vs mother prize fight going on after reading Shananns reaction to the nut incident with Chriss mother. Surely that will be dealt with harshly at a later date. THANK YOU. Shanann just exaggerated the shit out of it, like all their health issuesherself included. I left the project because as I have publicly stated I believe his primary targets were his children. Didnt Shanann say a few times that Colorado meant a drama-free life? They cant have been too bad then!!! Happy Thanksgiving 2017: Shanann Watts makes mini cannolis. She was human and had flaws just like all of us. No one would attend if one of their kids got thrown out of the wedding. I think they were allowed video calls, though. Your comment fully reveals how humans can distort and exaggerate most of what they hear. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. This non buying of nut free food really upset Shanann. And for those who say, Cindy Watts was a witch! Yet another Watts fan club rumor. Didnt attend what? In March 2021, it was revealed that the pair were still in contact while he serves five life sentences at the Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, Wisconsin. That isnt even what happened. Archived post. I think over time with the unsettling dynamics in the house, Chris immediate family, her family, Chris parent, sister, all full of animosity towards each other, bothered Chris. Chris just saw red and let his moms words take over. Shananns family are so nice and normal compared to Chriss. Others on his approved list from 2019 include parents Ronnie and Cynthia Watts, sister Jamie Williams and three other friends. Sisters' Amy Slaton and Michael Halterman's Divorce. Chris may have felt caught in the middle and reacted by withdrawing from the field of battle, went mute, then AWOL, then the dark side. Weirdly, he thought that quietly disposing of his family would bring less shame than initiating a divorce -which would make him publicly look like the bad guy. THAT is what Shanann was dealing with. This mother in law was rude to her the first time they met. 11 mo. Shannan was at the height of wedding planning which is the most stressful time, and she probably decided she couldnt deal with Jamies lack of involvement. Same year Shanann and Chris filed for bankruptcy. Shanann also posted a picture of Ronnie Watts on Fathers Day and paid tribute to her husband for being a great dad. Nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that Shanann did merited a death sentence. Cindy KNEW about the nut allergy, but did not believe it was serious, so she left chocolate out for the 3-year-old to get into and fed her peanut ice cream. Quite a start huh? There is right, and there is wrong. Or read etc. Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. Now we know why. Wow..I think that you, like Cindy Watts, do not understand how dangerous a nut allergy is. Two camps appear to be forming, those who support Chris Watts [in some way], and those who side with Shanann [as the innocent victim]. I dont think a trial is the only way of getting to those skeletons, though. It wasnt about killing his inner child but resurrecting it. Due to lack of knowledge. If this is indeed his sister, she knew about his affair with Nickole Sessinger prior to the murders. What if Chris hatred of Shanann was misplaced? And learn about all teh times they bashed Shanann in front of her and behind her back. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. She didnt take away my son, I dont own him. And the nut allergy was something that may have been just one more thing that served to accentuate the obvious animosity between Shanann and Cindy. Chris Watts' Parents He has a sister named Jamie Lynn Williams. https://www.websleuths.com/forums/search/2228646/. Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/On August 15, 2016, exactly two years prior to the day #ChrisWatts would confess to murder, #ShanannWatts welcomed her amazing, awesome and down-to-earth sister-in-law Jamie to the #Thrive by #LeVel family.Cops: With regard to Chris Watts background and upbringing. And the parents learn to compromise for the sake of their children. August 1, 2018: Chris Watts' First Day in North Carolina #1yearagotodayCW. Proof is in the planning, deliberate smothering of his 2 little girls TWICE, and murder of tgeir mother and baby Nico.all planned weeks in advance. she literally works at a hospital so its very possible that she has close connections to patients that may be prescribed it or it may just be easy for her to get her hands on. When I see Chris pictures from when he was younger, I see dead eyes. Its all in Chriss interview after the conviction and sentencing. Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga.The Watts Family Tapes is slated to debut on Your Content via Facebook Live Fri. Oct. 23.https://www.yc.news/2020/10/03/exclusive-prison-visit-with-the-colorado-killer-chris-watts-and-his-last-3-living-relatives-to-debut-oct-23/https://fb.me/e/1xvjL7nbyThis video is for educational purposes:Chris Watts Mothers Book Parts 1-6https://youtu.be/pFXjLuNvWXkDon't forget to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5c1crGPtnf3ZJ5TKWl918QSubscribe to my new vlog channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHOYcyT3bHfeEh4n65C1TYQ/ We have a great relationship because of that. I had a wonderful mother in law and I take from her how to treat a daughter in law. only a fraction of the reality? How was the prison video leaked of Chris Watts speaking with his sister, Jamie? Following their sons admission, Ronnie and Cindy Watts protected Chris innocence, claiming his lawyer talked him into confessing to a crime with mounting evidence against him whether he committed those acts or not. No, thats not quite right either. By no means am I justifying his actions. It was a very pretty shower. Pro-family, pro-killer. Do you hear yourself? He was always the quiet kid who followed the rules. I feel so terrible for the family of Shannon and the children. I didnt get all with my In Laws at all. I think you might be spot on. As soon as we intuit a reason, that is a motive, the Shanann camp get very angry. That has got to hurt, though, if Chris Watts and Shananns big day was all about Shanann, and Chris family werent even there. I dont care what you did I love you so much and thats all there is to it!. Killing his own child insideI think its the opposite. I feel like he thought hed have better chances of getting away with it after that is if he took his kids life away too. This nightmare has to be over for everybody.. In Touch Weekly is part of the a360media Entertainment Group.Copyright a360media 2023. Chris and Nikkis affair started at the end of June, lasted through July and into August until Chris murdered his family. I want him to plead not guilty to the children, she said. Especially when you consider that Cindy couldnt be gracious enough to attend her own sons wedding. "Featuring Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy & Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who - until now - managed to remain the MOST SECRETIVE and SILENT FIGURE in terms of the two. SW couldnt be responsible for doing *everything* to make a friendly relationship happen!, yes, she could. His mother made him a monster. If shed given Shannan a chance for the love of her son things may have been rosier. Shanann kept trying to involve his family of ungrates she should have told them to all fuck off when they didnt go tot he wedding and tried to sabatoge that as well, Watts sister and mother went to the bridal party before the wedding. Archived post. Then there was a totally separate event an engagement party thrown by ShanAnns maid of honor Nichole Canady, which his family had zero part of. In front of Shanann was Chris dad holding hands with Bella and Chris mom walked beside his dad. She even printed a special t-shirt for him to wear on Fathers Day, and took a picture of him wearing it. During the lengthy sit-down, distraught mother Cindy pleaded to know more about what transpired during the grizzly triple murder but was quickly shot down by Watts. Its probable that she really did not want to be part of the wedding party to begin with (under constant pressure from Cindy). just wanted to know about anyone elses theories :). Border agent dies and two others are 'gravely' injured following a shootout in major drug smuggling corridor off the coast of Puerto Rico: Suspected smuggler also dead after two Americans arrested. Monstrous dad Chris Watts was signaled to make up a story by his mother prior to pleading guilty to the murder of his pregnant wife and two daughters, exclusive video obtained by Your Content set to debut Oct. 23 reveals. [Ten years later the Anthonys are still fighting to keep their home]. She was far to good for them. We know because the babysitter told the police all this during her interview with them. You were made for something else. No, you dont get that she had a problem. 2022 Circle of Friends Donors . I dont know what it is yet, you are someone I always felt had a pure heart, a good soul, no-one, no-one, could ever say anything bad about you. Celestes nut allergy was a bunch of BS. I have a daughter in law, in my opinion the greater onus is on me to get along with her. Chris Watts Sister Jamie Watts-Williams Tarot Reading 1,156 views Mar 17, 2021 Insightful Carrie 2.34K subscribers Dislike Share Join this channel to get access to perks:. I know its so hard for you Christopher I can see it in your face, I can see it in your eyes. Whatever amount of attention Shanann wasted on this family was to much. I call him Pennywise, make of that mom de guerre what you will. ive been thinking about this for a little while but does anyone else think that jamie gave chris the oxy?? Does the we refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts sister] as well? Can I add that SW seemed like a classic shit stirrer too?? To be honest, I firmly believe Shanann thought she was above all, when in reality she wasnt. At 58 seconds in the clip below Cindy Watts seems to have made peace with the fact that her son killed Shanann: CINDY: He did kill her uh[chews gum]but for the kids, no. Though I have no idea how he can sleep at night definitely didnt end up with the mistress being in jail and all. 2021 Original Media Group Corporation. 20K views, 82 likes, 21 loves, 980 comments, 173 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Your Content: Featuring Colorado Killer Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy & Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn. So, Shannans reaction was on point. Dont ever babysitok? Watts Family Tapes The Event ONLY on YouTube and Facebook October 23rd 9-11pm EST Add the event to your calendar here:. While Chris' parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent.
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